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CITY OF SANTA CLARITA
AGENDA REPORT
City Manager Approval:
Item to be presented by: LJiIl Fosselman
DATE: July 10, 2001
SUBJECT: PORTA BELLA COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS MEETING AND
COMMUNITY FEEDBACK
DEPARTMENT: City Manager
RECOMMENDED ACTION
City Council to receive presentation on the input from the community regarding the Porta
Bella site and on the outcomes of the Porta Bella Community Stakeholders Meeting on
June 2, 2001. City Council to direct staff to:
1) Prepare a statement for the City Council to issue that groundwater and soil
cleanup are the top community priorities regarding the site,
2) Form a community taskforce on groundwater and soil cleanup,
3) Hold another community meeting regarding the project and cleanup of the site
(purpose is education, feedback, involvement),
4) Create methods to provide regular updates and accurate information to the
public,
5) Aid in the discussions, where appropriate and invited by both parties, between
the Porta Bella property owners and the water community in developing
groundwater cleanup strategies and timelines, and
6) Send a summary of the activities and outcomes of the June 2 community meeting
to the participants.
BACKGROUND
Meeting Preparation
On April 24, 200lCity Council directed staff to hold a community stakeholders meeting and
report back to the Council in 60 days on the outcomes of the meeting. Specifically, staff was
directed to play a facilitative role between the stakeholders, and that staff would not
discuss amendments to the development agreement with Santa Clarita, LLC. Ken
Pulskamp and Jill Fosselman were selected as the meeting facilitators, and their objective
was to bring all of the divergent perspectives together and identify any areas of
commonality from which to build as a community. The date of June 2"d at the Santa Clarita
Sports Complex was selected for the community meeting.
The intended outcome of the meeting was to facilitate a dialogue among all of the
stakeholders and the community on the issues, identify areas of commonality (if poss' le)
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and determine potential next steps. In preparation, the facilitators met with the major
stakeholders to review and solicit input on the draft agenda and proposed process. These
"major" stakeholders included Santa Clarita LLC, Department of Toxic Substances Control
(DTSC), CLWA, Newhall County Water Company, Valencia Water Company, Citizens'
Advisory Group (CAG), William S. Hart School District, Newhall School District, Saugus
School District, City staff and City Councilmembers. (Please see Attachment A for the
preparation activities and meeting process.)
Santa Clarita LLC and CLWA, on the behalf of the water community, are currently in
litigation regarding the financial responsibility for groundwater cleanup. Prior to the
meeting on June 2, there was significant concern that the parties involved would not be
able to participate in the discussion due to the litigation. Through Council leadership, the
City convened a series of meetings on Friday, June 1, to share information, break down
barriers of communication, and encourage dialogue (both privately and at the stakeholders
meeting the following day). These meetings led to the active participation by all parties
during the breakout sessions.
Areas of Commonality Identified
Many issues were discussed throughout the day in small breakout sessions including best
and worst case scenarios, barriers to achieving success, and strategies to address the
barriers. At the close of the meeting, the participants convened to the full group to discuss
and determine if there were any areas of commonality to which a majority of the
participants could agree. The following chart depicts the 12 issues and statements to which
a majority of the participants agreed:
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Areas of Commonality
• Responsible parties should clean to DTSC standards
• RFI is to develop a financing plan to clean the site subject to community review and
approval
• Restore the (potable) capacity of the lost wells
• (Someone) is to develop a realistic and expeditious timeline
• Continue the community process, build and restore trust
• The community is impacted by the contamination (we're all affected by it), so the
community needs to stay on top of it
• Santa Clarita LLC and Whittaker should pursue the insurance policies
• Water and soil should be cleaned together in concert and this cleanup is the number one
priority
• Consider the full spectrum of solutions
• Roads are generally needed, but there is no agreement as to the specific roads or their
placement
• More open exchange of accurate information is needed and desired
• The worst case scenario needs to be avoided
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Meeting Outcomes and Suggested Next Steps
The meeting on June 2 should not be viewed as the final step in the process given the
amount of dialogue and interest expressed for more information and community
involvement. Based on the discussion at the meeting and the areas of commonality
identified, three significant outcomes surfaced: 1) the community process should be
continued and expanded, 2) the water and soil contamination must be cleaned as soon as
possible, and 3) the community's role in the site should be established as the "watch guard."
Community Process. All of the breakout groups, in their discussions of barriers and
strategies to address barriers, found that communication among the stakeholders and the
community needs to be continued, and that we should continue the process to build trust
and strengthen the sense of community. Fundamental to the issue of communication was
trust in the quality and accuracy of information released regarding the project and site.
Concern was expressed regarding the impact of multi -agency bureaucracy on the ability to
have successful and timely communication. Public opinion regarding the project, the ability
to successfully clean the site, and public perception regarding the beneficial uses of the site
after it has been cleaned can be addressed through a continued community process.
Further, it was expressed that the "community process" should expand beyond the scope of
the CAG to include a more diverse representation of the community regarding information
exchange, project input, and cooperative efforts between the property owner and DTSC.
Groundwater and soil cleanup. The participants expressed a strong desire to heighten
efforts to begin the cleanup of the contaminated groundwater and soil as soon as possible.
Significant concern was expressed regarding the affect of the contamination on the Valley's
water supply and the ability to ensure adequate supply during draught. Many concerns
were expressed regarding the potential damages due to delaying the cleanup, which
included further contamination of more groundwater, injury to children from exploding
ordnance, and unknown health impacts due to contaminant exposure. Participants
discussed and recognized the relationship between cleaning the soil and cleaning the water,
and that the contamination of the groundwater would likely continue until the soil
contamination was removed. Cleanup of the site was identified as critical to our future
quality of life, and that the community desired the site fully clean.
Community oversight. A majority of the participants expressed that the contamination of
the groundwater and 1,000 acres in the heart of the city was a significant community
concern that necessitates community involvement. Participants expressed a desire to serve
as a "watch dog" to ensure that cleanup of the contamination is achieved through a process
and timeline that is acceptable to the community. In addition, it was suggested that
community oversight of the process would help to address many barriers. Suggestions for
methods of community oversight included: develop focus/subcommittees that are issue
driven, develop and distribute jointly -prepared information (releases, DTSC fact sheets,
website), expanded involvement of knowledgeable and concerned people and groups, and
work to establish trust between stakeholders and the community (through meeting, talking
and exchanging information).
An expanded community input and oversight process, in which an accurate exchange of
information is the foundation of the process, is desired to achieve the commonly agreed to
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value of immediate groundwater and soil cleanup. Based on the areas of commonality
identified and the outcomes at the community stakeholder meeting, the following are
suggested for City Council consideration and direction:
➢ Immediate clean up of the groundwater and soil contamination are the number one
priorities to the community; therefore, the City should work with the community
and stakeholders to develop mutually acceptable strategies to accomplish the
cleanup.
➢ The City should facilitate fostering a sense of trust between the community and the
stakeholders through achieving trust in the information exchanged and process.
➢ The City should play a facilitative role in fostering and expanding the community
process, continuing dialogue between the community and all of the stakeholders,
and helping to ensure a truthful and timely exchange of information.
ALTERNATIVE ACTIONS
1. Other action as determined by Council.
FISCAL IMPACT
Should the City Council approve the recommendation for further action, additional funding
will be necessary to support these activities. Upon approval of next step actions, staff will
return in a subsequent meeting with fiscal estimates for Council review and approval.
ATTACHMENTS
Attachment A: June 2, 2001 Meeting Preparation and Activities
Attachment B: June 2, 2001 Panel Discussion Community Questions -- Asked and Not
Asked Questions
Attachment C: June 2, 2001 Meeting Flipcharts and Notes — City Clerk reading file
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Attachment A
Porta Bella Community Stakeholders Meeting
June 2, 2001 Meeting Preparation and Activities
Meeting Preparation
On April 24, 200lCity Council directed staff to hold a community stakeholders meeting and
report back to the Council in 60 days on the outcomes of the meeting. Specifically, staff was
directed to play a facilitative role between the stakeholders, and that staff would not discuss
amendments to the development agreement with Santa Clarita, LLC. Ken Pulskamp and Jill
Fosselman were selected as the meeting facilitators, and did not represent any position or
interest. Instead, they sought to bring all of the divergent perspectives together and identify
any areas of commonality from which to build as a community. The date of June 2nd at the
Santa Clarita Sports Complex was selected for the community meeting.
Upon drafting a preliminary agenda and process for the stakeholder meeting, the facilitators
met with representatives from the "major" stakeholders to review the draft process and seek
input. The "major" stakeholder with which the facilitators met included the following: Santa
Clarita LLC, Department of Toxic Substances Control (DTSC), CLWA, Newhall County Water
Company, Valencia Water Company, Citizens' Advisory Group (CAG), William S. Hart School
District, Newhall School District, Saugus School District, City staff and City Councilmembers.
Upon the conclusion of these meetings, the agenda for the meeting was finalized.
The purpose of the meeting was to facilitate a dialogue of the community's views on the
opportunities and concerns regarding the Porta Bella project. The facilitators sought to create
this dialogue through a panel discussion with the major stakeholders, examination of best and
worst case scenarios for the property, development of desired realistic scenarios, development
of definitions of success for the property/area, identification of the barriers to achieving success
and development of strategies to address the barriers. The intended outcome was to facilitate
a dialogue between all of the stakeholders and the community on the issues, identify areas of
commonality (if possible), and determine potential next steps.
The event was publicized through newspaper advertisements and postings on the City's web
page, as well as mailing invitations to over 1,500 interested persons and Valley leaders. An
educational packet (composed of materials submitted by the majority of the major stakeholders)
was sent to everyone that reserved their attendance in advance. Over 30 of these packets were
mailed out prior to the meeting, and additional copies were made available as handouts at the
meeting that was held on June 2, 2001. Approximately 80 concerned citizens attended the
meeting at the Santa Clarita Sports Complex, including major stakeholders, residents, and
local businesses.
Santa Clarita LLC and CLWA on the behalf of the water community (including Valencia Water
Company, Santa Clarita Water Company, and Newhall County Water District) are currently
in litigation regarding the financial responsibility for groundwater cleanup. Prior to the
meeting on June 2, there was significant concern that the parties involved would not be able
to participate in the discussion due to the litigation. Because of Council leadership, the City
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convened a series of meetings on Friday, June 1, to share information, break down barriers of
communication, and encourage dialogue (both privately and at the stakeholders meeting the
following day). These meetings led to the active participation by all parties during the breakout
sessions.
June 2, 2001 Stakeholder Meeting Activities and Discussion
The stakeholders meeting began with a facilitated panel discussion in the morning, in which
one representative form each of the major stakeholders provided opening remarks, responded
to questions from the meeting participants, and offered brief closing remarks. Meeting
participants were asked to write their comments/questions on note cards that were then given
to the facilitators who posed the questions to the panel. More questions were asked than time
permitted for them to be answered during the panel discussion. (Attachment C includes all of
the questions that were raised, which are organized according to whether they were or not they
were posed to the panel.) During the discussion, a number of critical issues were raised in the
opening remarks made by the panelists and through the question and answer session. At the
close of the panel, the facilitators reviewed all of the major points that were raised during the
discussion and asked the group to prioritize and cluster (where appropriate) the issues that
would be used to structure the discussion in the breakout sessions. Following are the
prioritization/clustering of issues by the group:
• Cleanup up of contamination (groundwater, soil, who pays for the cleanup, moving or
stationary contamination)
• Legal options and financial viability (public safety concerns, what happens if the
contamination is not cleaned, insurance)
• Phasing (order of the Operable Units, wisdom of DS -12, as relates to expeditious
cleanup, timing)
• Land use (roads, open space)
• Quality of Life (schools, economic viability, safety, perception of safety)
The group found that although there were many critical issues surrounding the site, all of them
seemed to fit within these five central categories. As the participants moved into their four
breakout groups, these issues became the foundation of the discussion regarding best and worst
case scenarios and desired realistic scenarios. At the conclusion of the first breakout session,
representatives from each group reported their activities to the entire group. Highlights of the
scenario breakout reports on scenarios include:
1. Worst Case Scenarios: Groundwater and soil contamination is ignored, explosions occur,
the plume expands in the groundwater contaminating all of the Saugus aquifer, and the
taxpayers will be forced to pay for the cleanup; death and/or injury to children; City
bankruptcy (City sued and accepts responsibility) due to cleanup costs and liability for
toxicological effects from the contamination; cleanup takes many years (over 30) and
extends the Valley's "draught" conditions due to diminished supply
2. Best Case Scenarios: Responsible parties (not taxpayers) collectively clean the
contamination, and cleanup is quick and thorough; the site becomes the "jewel" of the City
and a "destination" for resort -style living; concentrations of the contaminates don't increase
or expand; infrastructure keeps with pace of development; community made whole with
restoration of groundwater supply; balanced land use that meets the community's needs;
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quality of life and property values increased with lots of parks, adequate schools and open
space; linking of Magic-Princessa occurs; reexamination of specific plan to decrease the
number of housing units in favor of creating a central business district in the heart of the
City; the developer cleans the water and soil to DTSC standards; the four contaminated
Saugus wells are restored to operational status immediately (intermediate step while total
cleanup takes place)
3. Desired Realistic Scenarios: The groundwater and soil will be cleaned (done safely or not
at all) and developed, over a long period of time, with some taxpayer assistance; the worst
areas of contamination (OU 2 and OU 1E) targeted for immediate cleanup with completion
targeted within one to five years; additional funding from RFI should be sought for cleanup,
coupled with community support through redevelopment; the development agreement
between the City and RFI/Santa Clarita LLC is enforced; phased development is allowed;
a public/private partnership is needed to resolve issues
During the second breakout session, participants were asked to identify the barriers to success
for the desired realistic scenarios, as well as develop potential strategies to address these
barriers. At the close of this session, the full group was convened again and reports were made
to the full group from each of the breakout groups regarding their activity and findings.
Highlights of the barriers identified and the strategies to address the barriers included:
Lack of Available Necessary Funding for Cleanup
➢ Seek federal funding
➢ Pursue insurance company funding/participation
➢ Evaluate phasing
➢ Insurance of prior owners
➢ Government funding
➢ Private investment
➢ Former property owners
➢ Acceptable level of taxpayer funding
Groundwater and Soil Cleanup — Completion of DTSC Characterization, Unknowns and
Unproven Technology
➢ Develop mutual trust — Porta Bella not walking away
➢ Enforcement of agreement
➢ Pursue insurance company funding/participation
➢ Develop technology for treatment and investigation
➢ Have a competent technical team tied to the project
➢ Implementation of technical experts' recommendations
➢ Look for water from other sources
➢ Set ultimate timeframe to complete characterization
➢ Host international seminar in search of new technologies
➢ Conduct overall study of what has been done elsewhere
Time (Time restraints on the ability to develop from the time needed to characterize,
secure funding and clean, and time needed for the process of community review and City
re -review)
➢ Look at historical investors for opportunity
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➢ Reevaluate the project to explore use and feasibility of phasing and tax increment
financing to regain interest of investors and others
➢ Complete full characterization of site and reassess approach to operable units
➢ Find other alternatives for funding to mitigate time as a barrier
• Technical Issues (geology, chemicals)
➢ Developing technology for treatment and investigation
➢ Have a competent technical team tied to the project
➢ Implementation of technical experts' recommendations
Communication (relationships and trust)
➢ Public workshops
➢ Newsletters, fact sheets, tours
➢ An educational program
➢ Expand CAG for broader representation
➢ A commitment to address the groundwater issue
➢ A community plan for the project
Many issues were discussed throughout the day in small breakout sessions including best and
worst case scenarios, barriers to achieving success, and strategies to address the barriers. At
the close of the meeting, the participants convened to the full group to discuss and determine
if there were any areas of commonality to which a majority of the participants could agree. To
determine agreement, the facilitators offered a statement on which they believed they had
heard commonality throughout the day, and then the full group discussed, reworded, and/or
rejected the statement as one to which the majority of the group commonly agreed. The areas
of agreement suggest potential next steps and desired outcomes.
• Responsible parties should clean to DTSC standards
• RFI is to develop a financing plan to clean the site subject to community review and
approval
• Restore the (potable) capacity of the lost wells
• (Someone) is to develop a realistic and expeditious timeline
• Continue the community process, build and restore trust
• The community is impacted by the contamination (we're all affected by it), so the
community needs to stay on top of it
• Santa Clarita LLC and Whittaker should pursue the insurance policies
• Water and soil should be cleaned together in concert and this cleanup is the number
one priority
• Consider the full spectrum of solutions
• Roads are generally needed, but there is no agreement as to the specific roads or
their placement
• More open exchange of accurate information is needed and desired
• The worst case scenario needs to be avoided
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Attachment B
Porta Bella Community Stakeholders Meeting
June 2, 2001 Panel Discussion Community Questions
Questions Asked
1. Whoever: The 4 capped wells are off -property. What proof exists contamination
came from Whitaker Bermite? If there is no proof, who will clean off site wells?
2. National Technical Systems is next to Porta Bella. Marguardt Aircraft
Corporation operated an engine or fuel -testing lab on this property. Will this
property be treated for ground water contamination?
3. Why did SC, LLC buy Porta Bella knowing about DS -12? Did anyone from the
City tell SC, LLC, before it bought Porta Bella that the City would change DS -
12? If so, who?
4. Has RFI done these kinds of projects before?
5. We recently learned that the Metrolink site is contaminated by perchlorates and
VOC's. Why would the City want to own a contaminated site?
6. To the City Manager: Has the City staff arrived at a recommendation on phase
development? If so, what is it and why do you recommend it?
7. To Alan Berg: If Santa Clarita LLC has sufficient assets and insurance
resources to clean up the site under condition DS -12 of the existing development
agreement, why should the City risk the health and safety of families and
children there by permitting phased development?
8. Why isn't SC LLC negotiating with Whitaker Bermite to clean up the
environmental mess they were responsible for creating? Bermite should be
responsible for some phase of clean-up.
9. How did Whitaker get out of the responsibility for the cleanup? My
understanding of the law is that the company that was responsible for the
environmental damage would be held accountable for the cleanup.
10. Does SC, LLC have the $44 million today to do the clean up? If not, where will
SC, LLC get the money? When? How much does SC, LLC have today to do the
cleanup?
11. RFI: Exactl what steps do you need to take to resolve financial stability of RFI?
12. When will LLC share budget with community? When will LLC share its work
schedule with community?
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13. RFI: What does investor need to provide additional money?
14. Mr. Berg indicated that the project needed to be "phased" in order to "cleaned."
Why is this true and how can community independently, verify this assumption.
15. Dr. Miller:What is the logical sequence re: phased clean up and groundwater?
16. How safe is insurance, a policy can be dropped at any time?
17. Water needs to be cleaned up but doesn't every square foot of the property?
18. Bermite Property: Why isn't Federal Government involved in clean up of
Bermite? They were the receiver of munitions made there.
19. What processes are available to clean water of perchlorate? How does the Puente
process work — How does the Sacramento process work. Extraction and
cleaning?
20. Is there a consensus that the site can be cleaned to an acceptable level? What is
the proof or guarantee that this can be done?
21. Since this project is full approved, how can any aspect of it be changed at this
junction? Therefore, why are we here?
22. Liability and insurance are key issues. How can we have a full exchange of
information if the people who have the important info are not here or will not
speak?
23. RFI: Exactly when will all of the insurance papers be provided?
24. What in the opinion of each panelist would get the toxics on the site cleaned up
most rapidly? Would it be phased development and cleanup, or the present "all or
nothing" restriction?
25. For Alan Berg: What does insurance policy cover, what is deductible, who
guarantees deductible money availability, what is term of policy?
26. RFI: You said RFI has $74,000,000 of insurance
A. What is the deductible
B. Who covers the deductible
C. What is the financial integrity of the answer to "b"
Questions Not Asked
1. How fast is perchlorate growing?
2. Since Golden Valley Road, and the Metrolink Station have been authorized or
built, hasn't it the "no building in places" condition already been rendered most
and without affect?
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3. Question for RFI/SC LLC: You have stated that the cost of the perchlorate
cleanup will be more expensive than buying water from MWD. If you are out of
money for cleanup, how do you hope to accomplish this water cleanup?
4. What is the opinion of each panelist as to what would be the fastest approach,
administratively, to get the toxics cleaned up? Is it better to wait, or go forward
now?
5. Question for RFI/SC LLC
At your May 23, 2001 luncheon at the Hyatt, we were informed that you have
used up all money available for cleanup costs. You have identified investors
waiting for City council to approve phasing and either mello-roos or a
redevelopment district for any cleanup to continue. Since a redevelopment
district is illegal (per our City Attorney) and mello-roos has no upper limit
restrictions, why should phasing even be discussed until more money is
identified?
6. Why is RFI responsible for cleaning up what is essentially a new contaminate?
And required to clean up with unproven technology?
7. Would the environmental clean up process and schedule be the same if DTSC
worked with Whittaker instead of SC LLC?
8. Dr. Miller: You explained the investigation process — going down 10' and maybe
more. When the site is graded for development and the new levels that were
more than 10' deep are exposed — are they tested?
9. Bill Cooper: Please briefly explain "drought protection" versus the amount of
water needed to serve the Santa Clarita Valley.
10. How much of the $60 million has been spent in SCV to SCV businesses?
11. At the last City study session it was indicated that the possible source(s) of the
perchlorate were near discovery. Have those sources been verified yet.
12. To Alan Berg: You said "the schedule submitted to DTSC in 1999 changed
because conditions changed. What conditions have changed and when did they
change?
13. Is Steadfast Insurance suing RFI? Or SC LLC?
14. For Mr. Cooper: What was your final comments re: CLWA's position.
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